Looking for some 2 wire COPs, any ideas?

[allen22]

Hello,
I'm looking for some 2 wire COPs to use with an EDIS6 module on my Nissan Maxima engine. Any ideas where to get a set? They have to be pretty long to fit all the way down through the heads.

Thanks
allen

[thechuckster]

Toyota 1JZ-GTE/2JZ-GTE (turbo, 6cyl 2.5 or 3.0 litre) are all Coil-on-Plug and require an external ignitor.

Am not sure if they'd cope being driven by a waste-spark pack like EDIS (1 ignitor per 2 coil-outputs) - Toyota does drive them in pairs but with one ignitor per coil.

[Ferret]

COP usually need a short dwell time. The edis module's dwell time (which is intended for wasted spark coils) may be too long and burn the coils. So make sure to check the dwell time needed before fitting different coils.
Why not use the EDIS6 coil pack with some HT wires?
That is what I did on my BMW I6 engine.
Avner.

[turbo54]

What are HT wires? I'm going to be using EDIS-4, but I don't want to contend with the EDIS style Ford plug wires.

[Ferret]

What I call HT wires you call Plug wires (I don't remember what HT stands for, "High ...somthing..." I think).
What exactly is bothring you about the EDIS 4 setup?
The coils?
The wires?
Both?
Why?

Avner.

[turbo54]

I imagine they are "high tension" wires, as in high voltage.

The reason I don't like the EDIS style wires is because you must use specific EDIS wires with the male coil connector with the barbs. I would prefer the more typical coil post so I can buy or make my own premium plug wires. Ford Racing makes some pretty nice EDIS wires, but unless I can take them apart and cut them to custom lengths, I'm at the mercy of their production lengths. I'm not a fan of making rats nests out of extra plug wires.

Actually, I'd really like to use LS1 coils with short pigtails to the plugs.

[turbo54]

I imagine they are "high tension" wires, as in high voltage. The reason I don't like the EDIS style wires is because you must use specific EDIS wires with the male coil connector with the barbs. I would prefer the more typical coil post so I can buy or make my own premium plug wires. Ford Racing makes some pretty nice EDIS wires, but unless I can take them apart and cut them to custom lengths, I'm at the mercy of their production lengths. I'm not a fan of making rats nests out of extra plug wires. Actually, I'd really like to use LS1 coils with short pigtails to the plugs.
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[Ferret]

Buying or making premium plug wires with EDIS style connectors isn't any different than buying or making custom wires with any other style of connectors. I had a custom set made for my BMW - I'm using EDIS6 instead of the stock 6 single COPs.
To me it seems wierd messing around with non standard coils to avoid using standard wires.

Avner.

[78Spit1500Fed]

I remember someone used a Neon coil pack with EDIS with great success... they use a standard plug type terminal so you can use "normal" wires.

-Brian

[allen22]

I just want to loose the old school plug wire setup, looks messy. I like to keep a very neat, clean engine bay with as little unnecessary "stuff" hanging around.

This isn't a high priority yet though, high priority is getting the car running well!


Fred

[ion332]

To run wasted spark COP with an EDIS controller, you should be fine by merely wiring each pair of COPs in series. That will give you PLENTY of resistance so you won't burn them up.

Think about it: the stock edis coil is NOT two wires around a common core, its a common wire with 2 taps. Thats effectively what you make when you wire the COPs in series.

[jsmcortina]

There appear to be mixed results of firing COP coils from the EDIS module. Some seem to work ok, others have startup problems. An alternative is to use two EDIS modules "in parallel" driving two COPs each.

James

[rontyler]

I remember someone used a Neon coil pack with EDIS with great success... they use a standard plug type terminal so you can use "normal" wires.

-Brian

It may have been me... I ran the Dodge Neon coil from an EDIS4 on my 510. It saw 3 or 4000 miles before moving on. Nary a hiccup although, granted, not a long test period. The reason for choosing the Neon coil pack was that I expected the Magnecor wires to be less expensive than wires for the Ford. Could be mistaken, though

rt

[enyawix]

There appear to be mixed results of firing COP coils from the EDIS module. Some seem to work ok, others have startup problems. An alternative is to use two EDIS modules "in parallel" driving two COPs each.

James

has someone made a list of what is known to work?

[MegaScott]

To run wasted spark COP with an EDIS controller, you should be fine by merely wiring each pair of COPs in series. That will give you PLENTY of resistance so you won't burn them up.

Think about it: the stock edis coil is NOT two wires around a common core, its a common wire with 2 taps. Thats effectively what you make when you wire the COPs in series.

Have you run 2 COP coils in series on the primary side? I'd be interested in learning how well it worked.

Each individual EDIS coil is no different than any other coil, except the secondary coil is tapped at both ends to drive two spark plugs.

[redrocco]

I thought that the vq35de came with COPs. I am running 8 VQ30DE COP coils in wasted spark on my toyota 1uzfe v8. The VQ30de coils are 3 wire - 12V supply, Ground, 5v trigger. Since they have built in ignighters there would be no need for edis or bip373 / VB921 drivers. I just drove them straight from the MS2 with the 5v pull up circuit. 1k resistor and 2N4033 are driveing 2 coils each.

[flyguyeddy]

is there any reason i couldnt use an igbt to trigger the 5v pullup? i just bought a 3 wire pwm valve controller board from glens garage, and it comes with two ignition drivers.