Multiple relays running from fuel pump drive?

For discussing how to choose sensors and create a wiring harness for all Bowling and Grippo versions of the MegaSquirt® EFI controller.
Forum rules
Read the manual to see if your question is answered there before posting. Many users will not reply if the answer is already available in the manual.

If your question is about troubleshooting, configuration, or tuning, you MUST include your processor type (MS-I or MS-II) and code version in your post. If your question is about PCB assembly or modifications, you must also include the main board version number (1.01, 2.2 or 3.0).

If you have questions about MS1/Extra or MS2/Extra code configuration or tuning, please post them at www.msextra.com Such questions posted here will be moved to: a temporary MSextra sub-forum, where they will be removed after 7 days

The full forum rules are here: Forum Rules, be sure to read them all regularly.
Post Reply
agw_01
MegaSquirt Newbie
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:43 am
Location: UK

Multiple relays running from fuel pump drive?

Post by agw_01 »

Can pin 37 of MS (fuel pump relay drive) be used to trigger 2 relays? The wiring diagram shows only the fuel pump relay using pin 37, whereas the main relay is on a switched live.

I currently have the fuel pump relay on my car triggered through pin 37. The issue I now have is that my main relay gets a permanent live through the fuse box. Can I use a switched earth (pin 37) to trigger both the main and fuel relays?

Didn't want to go ahead and do it if the board can't handle it.
agw_01
MegaSquirt Newbie
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:43 am
Location: UK

Re: Multiple relays running from fuel pump drive?

Post by agw_01 »

Just to add, the ECU gets power from another source as soon as the ignition is turned on.

It's only the injectors and stepper motor that are left on the main relay.

Although from what I've been reading, MS turns on the pump relay for a few seconds when the ignition is switched on and then turns it off until it detects a tach signal. Would this be enough time for MS to adjust the stepper before cranking?
patrickbrown
Helpful Squirter
Posts: 48
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 4:42 pm

Re: Multiple relays running from fuel pump drive?

Post by patrickbrown »

The injectors and the ECU on the main relay should be switched by your key. What stepper motor are you talking about? IAC?
Patrick Brown

MS2-V3 (2.891) - EDIS8
62 Ford Falcon - 331 Stroker
agw_01
MegaSquirt Newbie
Posts: 5
Joined: Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:43 am
Location: UK

Re: Multiple relays running from fuel pump drive?

Post by agw_01 »

Hi Patrick, thanks for the reply.

From what I can make out looking at the wiring diagram for the car (1994 Rover 420 Turbo) power is permanently applied to the main relay through pins 30 and 86. Pin 85 goes to the ECU to a pin marked 'main relay drive'.

The ECU has a pin marked 'ignition sense' so I presume when it gets power through the ignition sense wire, it grounds the 'main relay drive' pin.

Pin 86 of the fuel pump relay also gets a positive signal from the 'ignition sense' wire and has another pin on the ECU which I imagine switches to ground when the ECU is powered on.

Pins 30 and 86 of the main relay are ran through traces in the fusebox so no way I can get in there to cut any wires etc.

Megasquirt is in the car on a switched live which also runs through an immobiliser. And yep, sorry, I meant the IAC. Will the 'prime' be long enough for the IAC to reset before I start cranking?

Thanks.

MSII on a V3 board if it makes any difference.
trakkies
Super Squirter
Posts: 1162
Joined: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:06 am
Location: SW London, UK

Re: Multiple relays running from fuel pump drive?

Post by trakkies »

The pump relay driver transistor is a XTZ 450 which is a one amp type. This will happily drive two standard relays.
Dave P, London UK.
Rover V-8
MSII V3
EDIS
Tech Edge Wideband
Post Reply