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ITB's MAF not needed?

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:52 am
by Bollox
Please see photo below, can I run MS II V3 and disable the MAF portion?
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Also what tuning help can anybody give on the above.

Thanks

Stuart

Re: ITB's MAF not needed?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:27 am
by Bollox
OK figured it out, after reading a few hundred pages of instructions.

Thanks for looking, I thought the MAP would have to be in the ITB, not in the MS, I was thinking, how I'm I going to hook all of these things together.

Sorry

Stuart

Re: ITB's MAF not needed?

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:29 am
by Matt Cramer
We've tuned a couple ITB engines without a MAF. It depends on just how aggressive the cam is which fueling method to tune, but we've seen some that ran happily on pure speed density tuning. Others needed a blend of speed density and alpha-N, and all out race motors sometimes work best purely on alpha-N.

Re: ITB's MAF not needed?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:43 am
by Bollox
Matt I'm going to start with stock cams and see how it reacts with the EFI, if thats good enough for the street I may leave it there I want to be able to drive it with out carrying 3 sets of plugs or have to rev it past 3K just to pull away from the light.

If thing work out OK and feels like it could do with a bit of punch I will have a set ground to meet my requirements.

This is all highly experamental this engine has been MS by guys in OZ but not with ITB's and EDIS so the learning curve will be vertical. Toyota dod EFI this engine in the last few years of it's production but the controller was very basic and there was that much emissions on the thing it had reduced the BHP by 15%

When the engine first came out it was 140 BHP stock, but people fiddled with it and look 200 BHP on Carbs. I have dine a lot of internals to this engine so who knows what to expect, we shall see. for the sake of history the 18RG was the model they based the 152E on and thats a monster