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Gsxr 1100 '87 turbo EFI Conversiton MS2

Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:20 pm
by m4sterguru
Hi all, i got a gsxr 1100 1987, that it's is my pride and joy. Just finish my first phase of the project, and that's how she's at the moment.

http://s199.photobucket.com/albums/aa35 ... =slideshow

Now, with the winter, gonna put some, busa pistons, a TD04-15G turbo, fuel pump, and a fuel pressure regulator, and use normal carbs for it.

Been searching how to EFI my bike, and found this :D :D , that's what i want to do, just don't know how yet. For now gonna turbo it with carbs, but i want to build a MS2 with sensors to manage it, with some gsxr 1000 throttle bodies.

What i need, is guidance, or more a plan, what i need, what type of sensors do i need, and i need to retard my ignition, cause of detonation...

If anyone could guide me, i would aprecciatte... super newbie here.

Cheers

Pedro

Re: Gsxr 1100 '87 turbo EFI Conversiton MS2

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:21 am
by ArttuH
Hi Pedro, Nice to see you here! (You may have noticed my turbo GSX project on OSS)

At first, many people from here will recommend you to read the manual (http://www.megamanual.com/index.html) first and then read it again. And I have to agree with them. It may feel boring but you will gain plenty of valuable information and after that it should be more clear what you need.

Then some details that are specific for your installation.

If you are looking for reliable and neat installation without too much experimenting I would recommend the Microsquirt controller. V3.0 / V3.57 board will do as well but reliability might be some kind issue in bike use since the casing and connectors aren't sealed. Box size can be some kind problem as well.

GSXR1000 throttle bodies should be quite good choice though 2001-2003 GSXR600 TB's might be slightly easier to install.

About sensors. You will need a MAP sensor, engine temp sensor, intake air sensor, throttle position sensor (TPS) and some kind crank position sensor if you are going to control ignition. O2/lambda sensor isn't absolutely necessary but very helpful aid for tuning, wideband version is highly recommended for turbo use. For engine temp you can measure oil temp or cylinder head/block temp. I don't have direct experience about oil cooled engines but I guess that oil temp may rise too slowly also on them. Cylinder head temp should work fine.

Good luck with your project! And feel free to contact me if you like to discuss about some bike specific issues. Though I haven't ever owned an oil cooled Suzuki I have been helping some guys with their MS installations on these bikes.

Re: Gsxr 1100 '87 turbo EFI Conversiton MS2

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 1:44 am
by m4sterguru
Hi Arttuh, nice to see you, of course i know who you are, from OSS, you are friend from Marco and Sander, right ?

How is your project doing ??? Gonna read the manual, twice, and see what i can learn :RTFM:

I don't want nothing hiper super pro, just simple working things, i want to work the ignition and fuel, for turbo use, with gsxr 1000 TB's, and megasquirt, i don't need dyna 2000, i think .... been researching, and for get away from detonation, EFI is the best. I remember, persons like Toe cutter, that is using carbs, and he melt is engine 3 times :shock:


I will contact you arttuh, after reading the manual.

Many thx

Cheers

Pedro

Re: Gsxr 1100 '87 turbo EFI Conversiton MS2

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 2:39 am
by ArttuH
m4sterguru wrote:Hi Arttuh, nice to see you, of course i know who you are, from OSS, you are friend from Marco and Sander, right ?
Yes, the same person.
How is your project doing ???
Well, let's say that it's on momentary hold right now. Current engine broke about a month ago (No, I didn't melt it, output shaft bearing gave up :) ) and I will start building new "Stage II" engine pretty soon.
I don't want nothing hiper super pro, just simple working things, i want to work the ignition and fuel, for turbo use, with gsxr 1000 TB's, and megasquirt, i don't need dyna 2000, i think
Yes, there is no need for a Dyna box, Megasquirt can handle ignition on it's own. Installing both ignition and fuel injection at the same time is a bit more challenging project but still completely doable.